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New to Walling

Postby DaveRose » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:38 am

Hello my name is Dave and my mate John, we have recently passed our training and tests in level 1 and 2 with Peter Isherwood. We are currently looking at starting on our own and would like any advice on getting work and where to get it, suggestions for things such as vehicles and tools, and also whether or not there are government aids for small businesses starting in the industry. If there are any suggestions please message us back on my personal messenger
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Re: New to Walling

Postby david perry » Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:25 pm

Welcome to the site.

Where are you based?
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Re: New to Walling

Postby DaveRose » Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:49 am

Mid Lancashire , close to the Trough of Bowland
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Re: New to Walling

Postby BMartindale » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:35 pm

could i be cheeky and ask the age of you both?
your vehicle very much depends on where you are going to be walling and what type of walling i.e new builds - you may need to cart your own stone, etc.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby waller 69 » Tue Jun 14, 2011 8:48 pm

there are so many things to get into your heads when you start up, i will offer one to start with ( the tax man hates this) lease purchase.....
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Re: New to Walling

Postby John Barton » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:39 am

Hello, I’m John we are both 17 however my birthday is in a couple of days before am 18 on the 21st of June and Dave’s is on the 1st of July. I am currently driving a Daihatsu sportrack 4x4 but its petrol which is costing a little more than I expected. However I am soon looking to buy another vehicle but I am not to sure on what to get yet. I was looking into buying a Astra van but soon realising if i ever need to carry stone around chances are I might not get very far.
But Dave is currently learning to drive, as the way things look he might be catch a ride with me for a couple of months before he passes.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby Tracey B » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:05 pm

Welcome Dave and John, we need some young blood around here.
You might consider a van, it works well for me, and its surprising how much stone you can heft around. Its also a far cheaper option than a 4X4 until you get more established walling and have some savings in the bank.
Reckon you know as well as us that you only need a few basic tools to get started, you can accumulate more as you go. (Try auctions and specialist car boot sales).
A local reputation for good structural work will benefit you more in the long term than a flash motor and a bunch of shiny tools.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby BMartindale » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:01 pm

ok guys, well first of all welcome to the world of walling, i much agree with tracey, defo a van for now, more miles to the gallon and make the best you can with it until you establish yourself, when i first went buy myself i drove a toyota yaris across fields and wherever i could, it was cheap to run. same as tracey for tools, look eveywhere and see what you like, lump hammers, scutch hammers, dyking hammers, chisels, but more importantly a bucket, a spade, a pick and a long bar, good look guys, will enjoy hearing more from you and how things are going.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby John Barton » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:19 am

Well i was looking into having a astra van just a basic model which would be able to get me A to B with low cost on fuel and road tax and will have move than enough room to store and take my tools about which i have already manged to get my hands on with basic tools like spades lump hammers builders string lins, etc.
However then i started thinking what am i am going to do when i need to take a heavy load? hugh... well thats when i decided on thinking about a pick up but something desent is way over my budget what would be reliable.
But what i am trying to say is that is it important to be able to take loads of stone especialy when it comes to new biulds?
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Re: New to Walling

Postby david perry » Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:12 pm

I use a vauxhall combi van with snow/mud tyres. 50mpg!! The clearance is fine for most places I've been to and since I've had it the last year I've only had to walk once to a job and that was only 100mtres! i've a towbar and trailer but I've never really had to use them. Every job I've done has been able to gather stone for where I'm working.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby Tracey B » Thu Jun 16, 2011 6:32 pm

Re: "take loads of stone especialy when it comes to new builds?" If its quite a long wall, you buy the stone and pay the delivery charge, it gets totally impractical to try and do it yourself.
For small jobs just be prepared to make two or three trips, I think you will be surprised how rarely you end up having to shift much yourself. The old style Peugeot Partner (same as Citroen Berlingo) was a slow and willing workhorse, but now I prefer zipping around in the Citroen Nemo.
I think the rule of thumb the police use is that they must be able to get their hand inbetween the wheel arch and the tyre else you are overloaded!
If its too wet to drive into the fields in a van, any 4X4 will rip the ground up even if it gets you there.
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Re: New to Walling

Postby BMartindale » Mon Jun 20, 2011 9:45 pm

by that rule tracey, i think ive have the hilux overloaded, mind you if i went above 40mph the front wheel were lifting of the ground ;) id been given the stone, what can i say....
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